Why I’m Not Excited About Star Trek 2

Posted: January 13, 2010 in Braak, crotchety ranting, reviews
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There is talk about Star Trek 2, these days, and lots of excitement of about these guys who wrote the new Star Trek movie:  Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman.

I have, finally, gotten around to seeing the new Star Trek movie.  I like being able to talk about it at a remove from its premiere, so that I don’t have to fight with rabid fans or hateful enemies, or anything, I can just say my bit and be done.  So, here is my bit:  that movie didn’t make any fucking sense.

Actually, wait, first here is my bit:  lens flare, like whoah.  What is the purpose of a direction technique like this?  Lens flare off the monitors, off the spaceships, OFF OF THE GUY’S BALD HEAD, what are we doing here?  Is the purpose, “Let’s make sure Chris can’t tell what anything fucking looks like?”  Because if that’s it, then kudos.

So, now.  Let me be clear:  I like Star Trek, but I am not a major fan of Star Trek.  I know a lot about it, but I’m not trying to judge it according to what I know about it.  There’s a lot of changes they made that were good.  Kirk punching some guys in a bar?  Great, 100% with you there.  He’s a juvenile delinquent, fine.  Spock and Uhura getting it on?  Awesome.  It’s about time Spock got some action, and about time Uhura had a character that was more than, “I answer the phones.”  Entire timeline being erased and the entire original series being undone?  Fine.  Okay, fine.  I get that — you want to have the option of creating suspense, like maybe some of these guys will die, like we won’t KNOW how things are going to turn out, I’m cool with that.  It’s a franchise, obviously, so you were never going to kill any of them anyway.  But it’s a nice thought.

All that said, the movie still doesn’t make any fucking sense.  It’s a sequence of exciting, suspenseful moments, all strung together for no apparent reason.  And everything happens so fast that maybe you don’t even notice it.

“Augh!  There’s a Romulan going back in time he’s mad because all the Romulans are dead because Romulus blew up from a star so he’s going to blow up Vulcan!

Okay, wait…

“Augh!  He’s got a giant laser!  Somebody fucking parachute onto it, quick!  Who has a ninja sword!??”

Wait, hang on, wait…

“Oh no all the Vulcans are dead and all the federation ships are blown up and now he’s going to Earth and only Kirk can stop him AUUUGHHHH!”

WAIT.  Just wait.  A fucking.  Second.

So, this star blew up Romulus, the capital of the Romulan empire, so there’s no Romulans left.  Obviously, except for all of the Romulans, who live in the empire, which is very big.  But wait, the guy’s wife and daughter were there, so he’s mad, okay.  And the star was blowing up, and they didn’t have a plan to evacuate Romulus?  Not even with all their spaceships and transporters, that can hold hundreds of thousands of people?  Not even because they live in the future and something is about to blow up a planet EVERY SINGLE DAY, they don’t have a plan for this.

Their plan is to just sit around until Vulcan comes up with something, and Spock is going to come in a ship.  Wait, wait, hang on.  Why is the fastest ship so small?  Wouldn’t a giant engine be a lot faster than a smaller engine?  And why do they just send Spock?  Why don’t they send a team of scientists?  Spock isn’t even a scientist in the first place!  He spent his career as first officer on a starship!  Yeah, he was the science officer, but he wasn’t a specialist in science the way that you might think a Vulcan scientist would be.  ALSO, why the hell did he have a huge globe of red matter if he only need a marble-sized amount in order to DESTROY A SUN?

Whatever, it’s about seeing some shit get blown up.   Fine.  Then Nero goes back in time, after seeing his wife and child get blown up, and he’s mad at Spock for trying to help.  WHATEVER.  He’s a Romulan, he’s got a short temper.  But then he decides to go and blow up Vulcan, RATHER THAN WARN THE ROMULANS ABOUT THE STAR THAT’S GOING TO EXPLODE?  He’s got a big future ship, he can prove he’s from the future.  It doesn’t even occur to him to fucking tell anyone about it!

Okay, but we need this for the exciting plot, fine.  Kirk gets on the ship and reveals that it’s a trap, blah blah blah, there’s a giant space laser.  Christopher Pike takes guys from his command crew — including the guy that can FLY THE SHIP — and says, “Hey parachute onto the space laser and blow it up, and we’ll teleport you back.”

This is fencing. No ninja sword, see?

Yeah, but we want to see Hikaru Sulu fuck some motherfuckers up FINE.  So, when he says he has training in “fencing” why does he pull out a ninja sword and start doing backflips everywhere?  That’s not fencing at all!  Why?  Just because he’s Japanese, he has a ninja sword and can do backflips?  Dude, BACKFLIPS.  That’s it.  We just want to see someone do some backflips.

Why does Christopher Pike promote Kirk to First Officer, and then immediately send him off the ship?  The whole point of a First Officer is that there’s someone there to take over if something happens to the captain.  Why did he need to promote him at all if he was just going to throw him out of the shuttlecraft at a space laser?  Oh, that’s important later?  It’d fucking better be important.

While we’re on the subject, wouldn’t it have been a hundred times easier to just SHOOT the space laser and then send the message to Starfleet?  Couldn’t Christopher Pike have just taken a photon torpedo with him that was programmed to hit the space laser, and thrown THAT out of the shuttle?  It’s not like the guys had to reprogram the thing.  The plan was to BLOW IT UP.

And then!  The Romulans don’t have a plan in case their planet is about to explode, because I guess they’re morons.  But the Vulcans!   The Vulcans have a plan in case of planetary catastrophe!  The plan is, take the FIVE GUYS who know everything about Vulcan culture, and put them in a fucking HOLE, where no one can get in touch with them or use the transporter to get them off planet.  But wait, the giant death (mining, actually) ship would blow them up if they left the planet!  Well, why don’t they leave from the other side, genius?  Why don’t they have five THOUSAND guys who know about Vulcan culture, or who have SAVED IT ON FLASH DRIVES, and send them off in ships in different directions?  The Vulcans are the smartest cats in town, and their plan in the event that someone shoots their planet with a giant space laser is to put all of their culture on the backs of five guys and have them go into a hole and hope for the fucking best.

Well, now Spock has some tragedy going for him, great.  The Romulan death machine leaves, and Kirk wants to go fight it.  Now, this is retarded, because we just saw it destroy FORTY-SEVEN equally-equipped capital ships.  What the fuck does Kirk think he’s going to do? That’s not so bad, though, because that’s Kirk all over for you.

Though, forty-seven, man.  Even Kirk might be thinking about a rendez-vous with the rest of the (better equipped, more experienced) battle-fleet at that point.

Spock flips his shit, puts Kirk in a pod and sends him to his death.  Sorry — to an ice planet with giant monsters that Kirk will have a party on.  Kirk rolls down a hill into the cave that future Spock is in, because the evil Romulan marooned Spock on exactly the same planet in the cave that he knew Kirk would roll into when he fell down the ice hill after being chased by the monster.  Future Spock does a mind-meld on Kirk for no god-damn reason, because he narrates everything that happens anyway, then tells Kirk he’s got to go alone to talk to past Spock.

So, wait.  Future Spock is going to risk the destruction of Earth and the Federation because he wants, what?  Kirk and Past Spock to become friends?  To embrace their destiny?  THERE IS NO FUCKING DESTINY.  The whole premise of the movie is that the future is completely changed now!  What destiny is he talking about?  He already knows his past won’t be any different whether or not Kirk and Past Spock become friends, because he already remembers it differently!

Whatever.  They find Scotty, he transports them to the Enterprise, even though it’s been flying at warp something or other for hours now, and has got to be a billion miles away.  Somehow, Scotty ends up in the water tubes.  Seriously?  Are you shitting me?  WHAT THE FUCK ARE THOSE?  What are the water tubes that go to the giant spinning turbine?  What is that doing there?  Is it a water-cooled warp-core?

There is an emergency hatch that is exactly the size of a man.  Why?  So that if a man accidentally gets transported into the water tubes, you can hit the emergency button right before he’s chopped up by the turbine, and he will fall out but most of the water will stay in?  Oh, yes, that’s exactly what it’s for!  WHAT THE SHIT IS THAT?

Ugh, fine.  Spock flips out and kicks the crap out of Kirk, that’s awesome.  Now Spock “resigns his commission,” meaning he quits Starfleet permanently, but I don’t think that’s what they meant.  Then McCoy thinks the ship can’t go anywhere, because there’s no captain or first officer.  Oh, I get it, this is where it’s supposed to be important that Kirk was made first officer.  Except, what the hell, man?  There’s a chain of command on a ship.  It goes ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE LAST GUY.  What kind of idiot ship is this that, if two guys get killed, what?  All the other officers just sit around staring at each other? Everyone just has to pack up and go home?

So, anyway, once they establish that Kirk is Captain, then Spock comes back as First Officer and then they both IMMEDIATELY LEAVE THE SHIP, thus completely paralyzing it again.  All right, I know — Kirk was always going onto the planet and leading raiding parties himself, because he’s Kirk, right?  But shouldn’t someone at least have mentioned that it was a bad idea to send the Captain and the First Officer both to the Romulan Death Machine, because once they were both gone, no one would be able to do anything?

The Romulan Death Machine I guess had a second giant space laser, because it’s working again even though Kirk and Sulu blew it up.  If they had two, I’m not sure what good Pike’s plan was in the first place, but whatever.

Let’s talk about this Romulan Death Machine here, for a second.  Obviously, since it’s actually a huge mining ship, it’s got to have a giant space laser.  That’s for mining the crap out of planets.  But why does the ship look like a huge aloe plant?  What are all those spiky things sticking off of it?  Why is the command deck of the ship a huge empty tube with platforms floating around at random?  They don’t even have railings on them, seriously — I know the Romulans are super-strong and agile, but what if they hit something and the ship shakes?  What if a human gets on board and tries to push someone off?  Also, why are all the hallways covered in slime and filled up with steam?  Where the hell is all that steam coming from?  Nothing about this ship makes any sense.  It doesn’t make sense as a Romulan ship, it doesn’t make sense as a mining ship, it doesn’t even make sense as a fucking death machine ship.  The design of the ship is, “Spiky things are evil.  Platforms floating over a big hole are suspenseful.”  Which, I guess, is the same design concept behind Super Mario Brothers, so at least it has a pedigree.

The Romulans, obviously, are all bald and tattooed and wear spooky robes so that you know they’re evil, which makes me wonder why they even bothered giving Nero a backstory if they were going to do that.  Who cares if he had a wife and child and that’s why he’s evil?  He was clearly always evil to begin with — look at his tattoos!  Look at how spiky his death ship is!

Spock flies around in his little future space ship, the Romulans chase him, shoot some torpedoes at him, then Sulu heroically (?  It is kind of his job) flies the Enterprise around and shoots the Romulan torpedoes with his torpedoes which…dude, whatever, I don’t care.  Then Spock crashes the ship with the red matter globe — which, by the way, is roughly ten thousand times the amount of red matter necessary to suck up an entire SUPERNOVA — and it makes a big singularity that is, fortunately, far enough away from Earth that it doesn’t destroy all life right away, instead just kicking all the planets out of orbit so that everyone on Earth will die in twenty years when they can’t see the sun anymore.

The singularity is going to suck the Enterprise in, Scotty ejects the warp core, fine, par for the course for Scotty, the warp core explodes and the Enterprise…warps away?

Hey, there were a lot of suspenseful scenes, they were great.  Romulans wanted to start some shit,  Sulu did a backflip and stabbed a guy, Spock mind-melded the crap out of someone, Kirk did some punching, Scotty ejected the warp core.  That is, TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, the definition of Star Trek.

It’s just, y’know, I always thought of Star Trek as being the smart science-fiction.  About strange new worlds and new civilizations.  About alien psychology and politics and enigmatic space machines, about the bleeding edge of technology and the human power of invention, about peace through knowledge, advancement through science.  I thought it was about boldly fucking going where no one had gone before, you know?

I don’t give a rat’s ass if Sulu has a ninja sword.

  1. Hsiang says:

    Star Trek as the smart side of science fiction, really? I may be incurring Moff’s Law here but I always thought the bold goings on of Kirk, Picard and the rest of the pyjama-wearing Federation to be fun nonsense.

    I mean c’mon, in the original series they were visiting planets full of English-speaking* Nazis, Indians, or Romans — and there was always some hot co-ed with big hair and very little else. They would discover some brilliant way to get to the edge of the universe and back in two shakes of a Denebian lamb’s tail. Then in the next episode it takes days to reach a local star system within Federation space (all while hundreds of stars roll past the front window (what, really? the most important room on your magic star boat has only a pane of (space)glass protecting it from the cold vacuum of space?)) Heck their “Stardate” calendar seemed to be based on a random number generator.

    All these gaping holes in reason were apparent to me as a small child but I got swept up in the grand adventure because let’s face it Roddenberry’s utopian vision, no matter how silly, had its heart in the right place. Star Trek has always been more about emotion than logic. When they tried to get Serious and Realistic it turned into board meetings… in Space.

    Oh, and I really hated Deanna Troi.
    * Don’t even get me started on that Universal Translator crap.

  2. braak says:

    Nah, I don’t mean smart like, “hard SF,” I mean smart like, asking questions that I found interesting. There were goofball episodes, sure — going back to the sixties and fighting gangsters, whatever. But even the shit with the Romans, or the episode with the Indians, that was an actually interesting idea — what does American culture evolve into in the face of catastrophe? Why did Indians have the culture that they did? City on the Edge of Forever, Darmok, episodes like that are what Star Trek is for me.

    Things like the universal translator are ways to facilitate stories about talking to aliens that aren’t ALL two episodes of Picard and Dathan talking to each other in epic metaphor, trying to figure out what the hell was happening. I don’t have a problem with that stuff — I don’t have a problem not worrying about certain details if we’re trying to get to an interesting point. The problem that I had with the new movie is that it was asking me to ignore details as an excuse to put its characters into situations of heightened suspense and there was still no point to anything.

    Also, the command deck isn’t a window, it’s a viewscreen.

  3. SB7 says:

    Good action movie; bad sci-fi movie.

    I was at least a little gratified to see an interview with JJ Abrams in which he admitted to having overdone it with the lens flare.

  4. braak says:

    Well…it was definitely an actiony action movie. I wouldn’t watch it in place of Lethal Weapon.

  5. braak says:

    Shit, remember Cat and Mouse, where he’s chasing the Romulan ship through the Nebula? And they first find out that Romulans look exactly like Vulcans, so the whole Enterprise is slowly being torn apart by tension and paranoia?

  6. Liz says:

    “The design of the ship is, “Spiky things are evil. Platforms floating over a big hole are suspenseful.” Which, I guess, is the same design concept behind Super Mario Brothers, so at least it has a pedigree.”

    That is all.

  7. K. Liebert says:

    Maybe Hsiang was referring to Ten Forward as the most important place on the ship: the bar! I know for sure that was a pane of (space) glass.

  8. SB7 says:

    Okay then, Braak, a fun action movie, within the context of movies made in the last decade. Satisfactory?

  9. braak says:

    Your definition is acceptable.

  10. Braak, you are en fuego.

    While I liked the movie as fun, it has singularity-massive logic holes — like manufacturing a spaceship the size of the Enterprise in an Iowa cornfield, rather than in orbit. Orci and Kurtzman are also responsible for Transformers, Transformers 2, The Island, so they are currently getting paid a lot to deliver pretty much the same sequences of Big Shit Happening Around People, over and over. They suck, yet they rule

    And I did like this …

    “This is Captain Christopher Pike, of the Starship Enterprise!”

    “Hi, Christopher, I’m Nero.”

  11. braak says:

    There is nothing about the Enterprise that even suggests it could fly around in an atmosphere. The only reason they did that was so that you could see it in the middle of a big cornfield.

    Which, admittedly, was a really cool-looking scene. I’d have even been okay with it if the entire rest of the movie hadn’t also been about laboring so hard to squeeze cool-looking scenes in there.

  12. Moff says:

    If it’s really the case that “the true test of a first-rate mind is the ability to hold two contradictory ideas at the same time,” then my mind is SO FUCKING FIRST-RATE because I agree with and heartily endorse this post, and also fucking love the new Star Trek.

    I dunno. I’m pretty sure the Making Sense Quotient of films has generally (and steeply) declined since my childhood, and I think that’s a bad thing; but new Trek at least does a reasonable facsimile of making sense, so it’s a step in the right direction, and I vehemently pro-ninja sword.

    Also, I know the window/monitor argument about the viewscreen has been going on for a long time, but isn’t it both?

  13. braak says:

    I think I’m the only one who feels this way. When I was watching it, my brow just kept furrowing more and more, and I kept saying, “Wait…what?” to Jeanine, but she was already asleep.

  14. Truth is, Star Trek is kind of shot from the get-go for anyone who’s paid even faint attention to the franchise over the years. They’re trying to create their own continuity for a new series — I get that. But Nero’s destruction of the Kelvin COULD NOT POSSIBLY have a ripple effect that leads to Spock designing the Kobayashi Maru test, or to starships constructed in gravity, or to the Federation already knowing (or at least not being surprised at) what Romulans look like. Three contradictions of Trek canon (I know, I am a nerd) right out of the gate. It’s the signal to the hardcore dorks that this movie, while cool in other respects, doesn’t give a shit about the universe they know.

  15. braak says:

    It doesn’t help that some of the changes — like Spock designing the Kobayashi Maru Scenario — aren’t even especially valuable to the story.

    When I was in college, I took a screenwriting class with the guy that wrote While You Were Sleeping. He was a nice guy, but the thing is this. Part of the class was, we would tell him the ideas of the stories we were working on, and he would give his feedback. And his feedback was always the broadest, Hollywoodest response to a thing you’ve ever heard.

    Like, “Oh, I want to write an adaptation of The Divine Invasion, about this guy who’s really kind of god, and there’s this mysterious woman that he thinks is the devil…”

    “Is she the devil really? Or, oh! Is she the devil’s daughter? She should be the devil’s daughter, that would be a great movie.”

    “No, but wait–”

    “And then Moses could be in it, too, like he was Jesus’ uncle or something!”

    That’s what these guys feel like to me. Just two, super-enthusiastic guys who make big movies exactly according to the Hollywood numbers. “Oh, they’re friends? They should start out as enemies! Remember how Kirk is the only one to beat the Kobayashi Maru Scenario? Maybe Spock was the one that designed it!”

    “Dude, that’s super cool.”

  16. Erin says:

    “Why does Christopher Pike promote Kirk to First Officer, and then immediately send him off the ship? The whole point of a First Officer is that there’s someone there to take over if something happens to the captain.”

    Never stopped Kirk from dragging Spock along in the original series. In fact, they would regularly have the ENTIRE COMMAND STAFF down on an alien world for no apparent reason.

    I’m not saying it makes sense, I’m not saying it’s right… but shouldn’t the movie get a pass for anything that was in the original?

  17. braak says:

    That’s what KIRK did. That’s not what OTHER captains were supposed to do. Kirk was unusual by virtue of the fact that he always did every crazy thing himself — something for which he was often criticized by every other sensible starship captain, ever.

    Also: in the original series, it was apparent that if both Captain and First Officer were abducted by omnipotent space parasites, the Second Officer (usually a Lieutenant Commander, I think) was in charge. Because there was a chain of command. In J. J. Abrams starship world, only the captain and first officer can command a ship — if they are gone, the ship just has to float around in space, doing nothing.

  18. Moff says:

    Eh, Picard did it too. Not as often, but often enough. I just watched an episode where he left Geordi alone on an unknown alien ship to do some relatively simple repairs.

    @Jefferson: “Doesn’t give a shit” is pretty harsh. I mean, I saw the movie twice, both times with avid Trek fans (and I am one myself), and none of what you say occurred to us. I am sorry, but asking the writers to respect canon and continuity to the necessary degree to please the hardcore is, frankly, unreasonable. BECAUSE NO ONE CARES, MOBY. NO ONE CARES.

  19. @Moff: I agree, my phrasing was harsh. I am like you in the contradictory ideas department over this movie, and I just happened to list more heavily toward one of my two responses while typing. Braak done got me all stirred up! (Starship construction in a gravity well, though …)

    Let’s just revel in the knowledge that there’s one incarnation of Star Trek we can ALL agree on and enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=414TmP12WAU

  20. braak says:

    Also, the real issue is less “…the point of a first officer is…” and more “…why did he bother to promote him at all if he was just going to throw him at a giant space laser?” There’s no reason for it at all except to make it easy for Kirk to be captain later on.

  21. Moff says:

    @Jefferson: GOOD GOD, WHAT IS THAT FROM? (Did Geordi say, “Apple school”?)

  22. http://www.youtube.com/user/dayjoborchestra has put up a TON of those redubbed Treks. Hit and miss, frankly, but some of them are golden.

  23. katastic says:

    See, I had a huge issue with the oh-so-awkwardly shoe-horned in “romance” between Uhura and Spock. There was absolutely no sexual/ romantic tension between the two of them until THIRTY SECONDS after he sees his mother die, when Uhura jumps into the elevator with him and expresses her empathy by licking his face. REALLY? They’re chaste as can be until the moment his mother is liquified in an apocalypse? That’s when she makes her move?!! It was like watching cousins make out at a wake.

  24. braak says:

    Well, Spock is a Vulcan. Traditionally, they only mate every seven years.

    I imagine that this time is very much like Spring Break in Ft. Lauderdale, when all the Vulcan men return to the home planet, take off their shirts and drink from beer bongs, screaming “PON FARR MOTHERFUCKERRRRRRS!”

  25. Moff says:

    It was like watching cousins make out at a wake.

    You felt jealous and got an erection?

  26. katastic says:

    @Erin: The entire command staff plus one anonymous, hapless security officer who was instantly vaporized. Sucks to draw the short straw when Kirk wants to go on-planet!

  27. I always had a dream of buying booth space at a Star Trek con to show off my full-scale Tomb of the Unknown Bridge Ensign.

  28. katastic says:

    Uhura is from the United States of Africa, according to Wikipedia. Evidently in the futttuuuurrre, tonsil-licking will be a vital part of the USAf’s grieving rites.

  29. V.I.P. Referee says:

    I thought the character development was good; when young “Spock” figuratively “flipped The Bird” at the academy, you feel a burst of glee. He’s a quirk in the Vulcan system. A rebel. These characters seem “special”; they stand out. Strongly establishing characters from the point of the first film, is important in an anticipated re-launch/re-boot of a franchise.

    Maybe the next one will shift the focus from the “meet and greet” stage, to better development of technological and ideological concepts…

  30. braak says:

    All right, I know this is a dead post, but I want to respond to VIP here: I think that it’s not always right to say that character development is good and to equate that with the idea that these characters stand out and are special. Spock didn’t have to be a rebel. He was already an alien from a different culture — why does it add anything to Spock’s character to retcon in this past of him getting bullied by Vulcans? Why is a partnership between two people who didn’t fit into their respective systems inherently superior or more strongly drawn than a partnership between one guy who didn’t fit into his system, and one guy was actually really good at fitting into his system?

  31. Daniel says:

    Holy shit lmao!!!!!! I totally disagree with you, I thought the movie was great. Anyone with a positive outlook on the movie could totally counter you, however I think your take on the film is one in a million and fucking hilarious and I think your argument is outstanding.

  32. Jam One says:

    Thank God someone else shares my complete disappointment in that movie. I was feeling like a pariah when my “friends” were ohhhhing and ahhhhing over the brilliance of JJ Abrams direction. I am thinking they all drank some kool aid that I missed.

    I mean JJ Abrams had one of the best franchises in media handed to him and he totally screwed it up. IMHO all he had to do was to remake the Christopher Pike episode from the Original Star Trek series with better effects, different actors, and more background regarding the Federation, etc., and it would have been a winner. I would have been queuing up to see the follow on films. But nooooooo. This alternate timeline non-sense, made the movie jumbled and confusing as hell.

    The characters I absolutely loved were the characters of Scotty and Bones, sadly they did not get enough screen time. All the brouhaha about the casting of Kirk and Spock, the real casting genius was in casting the young Scotty and Bones.

    Anyway the movie sucked, I sooo wanted my money back, JJ Abrams bites as a director. I could have done a much better job, no way will I waste my time seeing any sequel to this abomination.

  33. brian577 says:

    Spock being bullied is not a retcon. From Journey to Babel
    AMANDA: When you were five years old and came home stiff-lipped, anguished, because the other boys tormented you saying that you weren’t really Vulcan.

  34. braak says:

    RIght, but the point that I was illustrating is actually that I don’t care about retcons, I care about it when things are stupid, which this was.

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